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		By: Maree Hamming		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[As we rush closer and closer to the release of K5 , there are grave doubts re the efficacy of the Czech  Strain1351 vaccine Cylap (R) for K5 which is a CHINESE Va strain.  It is a different genome family to Czech Strain.  The Government claims that Cylap(R) protects using &quot;correct vaccination protocols&quot; , that is not proven, i.e. the testing was for 30 DAYs as per the first paragraph in the conclusion of the pilot study report, but the protocols require 1ml per 12 months.  (not 30  days which is all the pilot study tested)

 And only 7 rabbits in two groups, and not monitored long enough, i.e. only 7 days as per 14 days by Pfizer.

 So the Government does NOT know if Cylap (R) will protect and so is willing to risk the lives of thousands of pets to achieve their political objectives. 
 Earlier outbreaks from virus strains  in the same subgroup have caused significant deaths among vaccinated rabbits-- the proof is out there and we should all be worried.   

 We have been trying to talk to  everybody from Joyce down to the researchers themselves for a couple of years now but they all ignore us and the scientific evidence!   That is, science has become subservient to politics , which is not meant to happen.   On the recent Channel 7  news item, K5 was described as the &quot;King of  Killer virusus... and that it would kill like the myxo did in the fifties, which caused billions of rabbits to die. K5 was chosen because it works well in cooler weather as well, it was chosen because it overcomes Natural immunity .... so does it  also overcome vaccinated rabbits... well the earlier outbreak of Chinese Va strain, would indicate that this is the reality of K5.  Now to compound the current situation we now have a shortage of vaccine available in some areas it seems. Why does this matter if its not going to work very well? It matters for two very valid reasons, one being that the RHDV351 Czech still kills, and two, we don&#039;t know how much or how little  efficacy  the vaccine will have for K5....  it is thought given the ratio of deaths in previous outbreaks it wont be very much... BUT, A LITTLE PROTECTION IS BETTER THAN NONE....  but its not good enough, a little for long term is it? If this were cats or dogs, people would be in an uproar demanding suitable vaccines, but guess what, the Government is already planning bio -control for cats..... for feral cats.... BUT    big difference ,  domestic cat owners WILL HAVE A VACCINE...  so .... I don&#039;t think its UNREASONABLE  TO ASK FOR A DELAY OF K5  until we get a vaccine for the strains killing domestic pets already, RHDV2  (not species specific ) and for K5.....   It is noted that this practice has the labelled use of the Cylap(R) vaccine and this is very reassuring  as I believe that the Off-label regime  is risky  and remember K5 was tested against old vaccine for 30 days not for the 12 months that a vaccine should test out to. What does this all mean? Follow  this vets advice , its good advice and ask you local MP to lobby to stop the release until we have a vaccine with Proven efficacy. not a  &quot; it may help &quot; or  &quot;its probable&quot;&quot;  to find out how to help,,, go to the Against K5 group on FB,its a public group so you don&#039;t even have to be a member to read it... lots of information in the files section.  and  do the best bio as advised above by Andrew, you possibly can and love your bunnies.... may they stay safe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we rush closer and closer to the release of K5 , there are grave doubts re the efficacy of the Czech  Strain1351 vaccine Cylap (R) for K5 which is a CHINESE Va strain.  It is a different genome family to Czech Strain.  The Government claims that Cylap(R) protects using &#8220;correct vaccination protocols&#8221; , that is not proven, i.e. the testing was for 30 DAYs as per the first paragraph in the conclusion of the pilot study report, but the protocols require 1ml per 12 months.  (not 30  days which is all the pilot study tested)</p>
<p> And only 7 rabbits in two groups, and not monitored long enough, i.e. only 7 days as per 14 days by Pfizer.</p>
<p> So the Government does NOT know if Cylap (R) will protect and so is willing to risk the lives of thousands of pets to achieve their political objectives.<br />
 Earlier outbreaks from virus strains  in the same subgroup have caused significant deaths among vaccinated rabbits&#8211; the proof is out there and we should all be worried.   </p>
<p> We have been trying to talk to  everybody from Joyce down to the researchers themselves for a couple of years now but they all ignore us and the scientific evidence!   That is, science has become subservient to politics , which is not meant to happen.   On the recent Channel 7  news item, K5 was described as the &#8220;King of  Killer virusus&#8230; and that it would kill like the myxo did in the fifties, which caused billions of rabbits to die. K5 was chosen because it works well in cooler weather as well, it was chosen because it overcomes Natural immunity &#8230;. so does it  also overcome vaccinated rabbits&#8230; well the earlier outbreak of Chinese Va strain, would indicate that this is the reality of K5.  Now to compound the current situation we now have a shortage of vaccine available in some areas it seems. Why does this matter if its not going to work very well? It matters for two very valid reasons, one being that the RHDV351 Czech still kills, and two, we don&#8217;t know how much or how little  efficacy  the vaccine will have for K5&#8230;.  it is thought given the ratio of deaths in previous outbreaks it wont be very much&#8230; BUT, A LITTLE PROTECTION IS BETTER THAN NONE&#8230;.  but its not good enough, a little for long term is it? If this were cats or dogs, people would be in an uproar demanding suitable vaccines, but guess what, the Government is already planning bio -control for cats&#8230;.. for feral cats&#8230;. BUT    big difference ,  domestic cat owners WILL HAVE A VACCINE&#8230;  so &#8230;. I don&#8217;t think its UNREASONABLE  TO ASK FOR A DELAY OF K5  until we get a vaccine for the strains killing domestic pets already, RHDV2  (not species specific ) and for K5&#8230;..   It is noted that this practice has the labelled use of the Cylap(R) vaccine and this is very reassuring  as I believe that the Off-label regime  is risky  and remember K5 was tested against old vaccine for 30 days not for the 12 months that a vaccine should test out to. What does this all mean? Follow  this vets advice , its good advice and ask you local MP to lobby to stop the release until we have a vaccine with Proven efficacy. not a  &#8221; it may help &#8221; or  &#8220;its probable&#8221;&#8221;  to find out how to help,,, go to the Against K5 group on FB,its a public group so you don&#8217;t even have to be a member to read it&#8230; lots of information in the files section.  and  do the best bio as advised above by Andrew, you possibly can and love your bunnies&#8230;. may they stay safe.</p>
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