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		By: Sue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2023 09:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-218394&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Andrew, appreciate your reply. I didn&#039;t have an issue with getting a blood test, it was more the attitude of the vet that had me wondering why. I do understand completely what you are saying as I have a similar attitude in my work (which is in no way related to animals but where you take people on face value and attempt to help as much as you can) and it has blown up in my face too. I suppose it was probably the lack of professionalism that took me by surprise. Thanks again for letting me vent.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks Andrew, appreciate your reply. I didn&#8217;t have an issue with getting a blood test, it was more the attitude of the vet that had me wondering why. I do understand completely what you are saying as I have a similar attitude in my work (which is in no way related to animals but where you take people on face value and attempt to help as much as you can) and it has blown up in my face too. I suppose it was probably the lack of professionalism that took me by surprise. Thanks again for letting me vent.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2023 18:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-218388&quot;&gt;Sue&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Sue. The approach you experienced is quite common, and for a very good reason. My personal strategy has been to make blood testing optional, and talk through the risks and benefits, but it has certainly blown up in my face when later it turned out that the animal had liver or kidney problems. People are very good at forgetting that they consented to forgoing the blood tests. It’s a form of defensiveness in the vets to mandate blood testing, but perhaps you could offer to sign a waiver so that they supply them without it. I don’t think there is any rule that says blood testing is necessary and I’m confident you will find other vets who will supply the drugs without in the same way I previously did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-218388">Sue</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Sue. The approach you experienced is quite common, and for a very good reason. My personal strategy has been to make blood testing optional, and talk through the risks and benefits, but it has certainly blown up in my face when later it turned out that the animal had liver or kidney problems. People are very good at forgetting that they consented to forgoing the blood tests. It’s a form of defensiveness in the vets to mandate blood testing, but perhaps you could offer to sign a waiver so that they supply them without it. I don’t think there is any rule that says blood testing is necessary and I’m confident you will find other vets who will supply the drugs without in the same way I previously did.</p>
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		By: Sue		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2023 10:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, I have just had a heated disagreement with a vet at the practice my dogs go to. They would not provide her required pain meds without a blood test. I do not argue that it might be necessary, but she needed her meds for over the weekend. I had prdered the meds the week before and had prior approval to pick it up. I do not understand their lack of duty of care. My dog is in chronic pain.  Is it mandated that blood tests must be done prior to issuing medication.? I would have booked her in the following week with no hesitation. I had to beg them to sell me, at great cost, 5 syringes each with a single dose to last over the weekend. So my main question  is can a vet withhold required and prescribed medication? I only ask this so that I can accept their very smug and condescending attitude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have just had a heated disagreement with a vet at the practice my dogs go to. They would not provide her required pain meds without a blood test. I do not argue that it might be necessary, but she needed her meds for over the weekend. I had prdered the meds the week before and had prior approval to pick it up. I do not understand their lack of duty of care. My dog is in chronic pain.  Is it mandated that blood tests must be done prior to issuing medication.? I would have booked her in the following week with no hesitation. I had to beg them to sell me, at great cost, 5 syringes each with a single dose to last over the weekend. So my main question  is can a vet withhold required and prescribed medication? I only ask this so that I can accept their very smug and condescending attitude.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-204250</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2022 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-204211&quot;&gt;Kourosh&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Kourosh. I’m no pathologist but I  that the normal values depend to some extent on the testing method used. Therefore, I would use the reference ranges supplied for the test methodology rather than general ones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-204211">Kourosh</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Kourosh. I’m no pathologist but I  that the normal values depend to some extent on the testing method used. Therefore, I would use the reference ranges supplied for the test methodology rather than general ones.</p>
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		By: Kourosh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2022 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi
I&#039;m Dvm Kourosh 
Can I ask you to tell me the normal level of t3, t4 and tsh in cats?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I&#8217;m Dvm Kourosh<br />
Can I ask you to tell me the normal level of t3, t4 and tsh in cats?</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-75336</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2020 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-75178&quot;&gt;Alison&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Alison. I’m sorry to hear that – there’s not much you can do if that’s the case. Obviously there’s been a breach of trust and you will be seeking services elsewhere. It would seem unnecessary to do, but you could always photograph a form after you’ve signed it in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-75178">Alison</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Alison. I’m sorry to hear that – there’s not much you can do if that’s the case. Obviously there’s been a breach of trust and you will be seeking services elsewhere. It would seem unnecessary to do, but you could always photograph a form after you’ve signed it in the future.</p>
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		By: Alison		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2020 03:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My dog had surgery last week at the vet.I didn&#039;t give any consent or permission for them to take blood samples. When I went to pick my dog up,they demanded I need to pay the $98 for it,as they did it anyway.I ticked the no box,but the vet changed it to the yes box.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dog had surgery last week at the vet.I didn&#8217;t give any consent or permission for them to take blood samples. When I went to pick my dog up,they demanded I need to pay the $98 for it,as they did it anyway.I ticked the no box,but the vet changed it to the yes box.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-71053&quot;&gt;Lorraine&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lorraine. Your thinking is the same as mine in that there is no value in a test if its result could not change anything. In this case however, a test showing problems would allow you to use another seizure medication. Of course, these are more expensive so you may say “I wouldn’t use anything but phenobarbitone regardless“ and in that case it’s possible the test result would be meaningless. Not all vets will agree with this approach. 
As for vet pricing, you can see a long article with my views &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/myth-11-all-vets-charge-the-same/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-71053">Lorraine</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lorraine. Your thinking is the same as mine in that there is no value in a test if its result could not change anything. In this case however, a test showing problems would allow you to use another seizure medication. Of course, these are more expensive so you may say “I wouldn’t use anything but phenobarbitone regardless“ and in that case it’s possible the test result would be meaningless. Not all vets will agree with this approach.<br />
As for vet pricing, you can see a long article with my views <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/myth-11-all-vets-charge-the-same/">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Lorraine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2020 09:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-70823&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for the reply. I still feel that if Bear had a blood test and the results show he has liver damage the vet has said and I quote “ because of his age there is really not much we can do for him” what is the point . He is happy relatively healthy for his age and I take him to the vet a least twice a year for checkups so for the vet to say no blood test no prescription is extortion. And by the way I pay $68 for the tablet plus $70 for the consult. Am I being ripped off. One again thanks for you reply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-70823">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for the reply. I still feel that if Bear had a blood test and the results show he has liver damage the vet has said and I quote “ because of his age there is really not much we can do for him” what is the point . He is happy relatively healthy for his age and I take him to the vet a least twice a year for checkups so for the vet to say no blood test no prescription is extortion. And by the way I pay $68 for the tablet plus $70 for the consult. Am I being ripped off. One again thanks for you reply.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-70807&quot;&gt;Lorraine&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lorraine. Phenobarbitone levels are only a guideline, and if the drug is tolerated then it’s not unheard-of to be outside the recommended range. That is the big question: is the drug tolerated? I would consider the blood test to be more useful on this basis as liver damage occurs with phenobarbitone use even after a long trouble-free period. However, in my clinic I am quite happy to discuss the pros and cons of blood tests and let an owner decide. Therefore, you are likely to find other vets who feel the same way about informed consent. Regarding pricing, I am guessing that the $68 covers more than just a prescription – probably a visit for you as well- but if it doesn’t, once again it’s a free-market and you may find another vet doesn’t charge the same. And of course, there are the online pharmacies- I know that plenty of vets don’t like working with them, but plenty of others do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/pet-anaesthetic-blood-tests-necessary/#comment-70807">Lorraine</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lorraine. Phenobarbitone levels are only a guideline, and if the drug is tolerated then it’s not unheard-of to be outside the recommended range. That is the big question: is the drug tolerated? I would consider the blood test to be more useful on this basis as liver damage occurs with phenobarbitone use even after a long trouble-free period. However, in my clinic I am quite happy to discuss the pros and cons of blood tests and let an owner decide. Therefore, you are likely to find other vets who feel the same way about informed consent. Regarding pricing, I am guessing that the $68 covers more than just a prescription – probably a visit for you as well- but if it doesn’t, once again it’s a free-market and you may find another vet doesn’t charge the same. And of course, there are the online pharmacies- I know that plenty of vets don’t like working with them, but plenty of others do.</p>
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