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		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1175</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1174&quot;&gt;Harry&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. The point about assisting transition is a very good one. Vets can feel &#039;trapped&#039; by their highly specific jobs and not see another option.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1174">Harry</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. The point about assisting transition is a very good one. Vets can feel &#8216;trapped&#8217; by their highly specific jobs and not see another option.</p>
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		By: Harry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article, and I agree with Alix&#039;s points too. I would like to add the following point: vets need to know what the escape avenues are out of the profession that don&#039;t involve becoming a teacher (which seems to be the default at the moment). I would like to encourage recruitment consultants like VetLink to have a consultant whose sole role is to help vets transition out off the profession into something else. 

I am quitting the profession, almost entirely because I&#039;m sick of dealing with the general public. This profession has jaded me and made me increasingly misanthropic. It has made me start to not care any more, and that kills me. I&#039;ll keep my rego up just in case I change my mind in the next couple of years, but for now I am walking away. It seems that five years is the magic number as many of colleagues at this point in our career are turning our backs on it.  It is a shame, because we worked hard to get where we are but the public throw out back I our faces. I find the comment &quot;you vets are just in it for the money&quot; particularly galling and offensive. 

Anyway, I&#039;m looking forward to hanging my stethoscope up and walking away to a well paid office job...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and I agree with Alix&#8217;s points too. I would like to add the following point: vets need to know what the escape avenues are out of the profession that don&#8217;t involve becoming a teacher (which seems to be the default at the moment). I would like to encourage recruitment consultants like VetLink to have a consultant whose sole role is to help vets transition out off the profession into something else. </p>
<p>I am quitting the profession, almost entirely because I&#8217;m sick of dealing with the general public. This profession has jaded me and made me increasingly misanthropic. It has made me start to not care any more, and that kills me. I&#8217;ll keep my rego up just in case I change my mind in the next couple of years, but for now I am walking away. It seems that five years is the magic number as many of colleagues at this point in our career are turning our backs on it.  It is a shame, because we worked hard to get where we are but the public throw out back I our faces. I find the comment &#8220;you vets are just in it for the money&#8221; particularly galling and offensive. </p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m looking forward to hanging my stethoscope up and walking away to a well paid office job&#8230;</p>
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		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1163</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2015 01:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1157&quot;&gt;Alix&lt;/a&gt;.

Some of your ideas have been added with attribution. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1157">Alix</a>.</p>
<p>Some of your ideas have been added with attribution. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Lauren		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 23:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this.</p>
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		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1161</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 22:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1157&quot;&gt;Alix&lt;/a&gt;.

Good points.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1157">Alix</a>.</p>
<p>Good points.</p>
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		By: Alix		</title>
		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1157</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the well thought-out and balanced article. Whenever I read stories like this it reminds me that vets face the same issues around the world, and suffer the same consequences.

 I found a couple of your points quite interesting, particularly your comment &quot;If a business is failing, there’s probably not much more that can be done&quot;. I&#039;m not sure this is true- in fact, I&#039;d be surprised if it were the case. If you look at your list of drivers of vet suicide they can be split loosely into 2 camps- stuff that is related to vet work (euths, tricky clients, high standards, access to lethal drugs) and stuff that is related to any poorly managed job (team conflict, over work and business management). If a business is failing I would suggest that there is a collection of problems behind the scenes- and usually it&#039;s nothing to do with clinical work!

  I believe it is possible to address a lot of vet workplace stress through proper clinic management. I don&#039;t know what your situation is and I&#039;m certainly not having a go at you if you do run your own practice (good on you if you do!) but vet clinics are often poorly managed. Clinic management often takes a backseat to vet work for owner-operators and often there isn&#039;t always a strong grip on all aspects of business management.

  We&#039;re happy to seek advice when we hit medical issues we can&#039;t tackle but we&#039;re often slow to do so when it&#039;s a management issue. If your business is failing- why not seek a business or clinic consultant? If you can&#039;t deal with a tricky member of staff, why not ask an HR specialist what to do? If over work or bad clients stress your team, is there a way for management to mitigate that through better support? What does that &#039;support&#039; look like in practical terms?

  Vet will always be a tough but rewarding job but too often I read articles like this where a lot of the problems are completely unrelated to vet specifically and would be stressful in any workplace. We can&#039;t necessarily change the industry but we can change where we work- either by being agents of change within the workplace or by finding a new workplace altogether.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the well thought-out and balanced article. Whenever I read stories like this it reminds me that vets face the same issues around the world, and suffer the same consequences.</p>
<p> I found a couple of your points quite interesting, particularly your comment &#8220;If a business is failing, there’s probably not much more that can be done&#8221;. I&#8217;m not sure this is true- in fact, I&#8217;d be surprised if it were the case. If you look at your list of drivers of vet suicide they can be split loosely into 2 camps- stuff that is related to vet work (euths, tricky clients, high standards, access to lethal drugs) and stuff that is related to any poorly managed job (team conflict, over work and business management). If a business is failing I would suggest that there is a collection of problems behind the scenes- and usually it&#8217;s nothing to do with clinical work!</p>
<p>  I believe it is possible to address a lot of vet workplace stress through proper clinic management. I don&#8217;t know what your situation is and I&#8217;m certainly not having a go at you if you do run your own practice (good on you if you do!) but vet clinics are often poorly managed. Clinic management often takes a backseat to vet work for owner-operators and often there isn&#8217;t always a strong grip on all aspects of business management.</p>
<p>  We&#8217;re happy to seek advice when we hit medical issues we can&#8217;t tackle but we&#8217;re often slow to do so when it&#8217;s a management issue. If your business is failing- why not seek a business or clinic consultant? If you can&#8217;t deal with a tricky member of staff, why not ask an HR specialist what to do? If over work or bad clients stress your team, is there a way for management to mitigate that through better support? What does that &#8216;support&#8217; look like in practical terms?</p>
<p>  Vet will always be a tough but rewarding job but too often I read articles like this where a lot of the problems are completely unrelated to vet specifically and would be stressful in any workplace. We can&#8217;t necessarily change the industry but we can change where we work- either by being agents of change within the workplace or by finding a new workplace altogether.</p>
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		By: Julie		</title>
		<link>https://www.walkervillevet.com.au/blog/vets-stress-and-suicide/#comment-1155</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 10:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your excellent article regarding an issue to which I, sadly, hadn&#039;t given due consideration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your excellent article regarding an issue to which I, sadly, hadn&#8217;t given due consideration.</p>
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		By: Jan Obery		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2015 07:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this intelligent and thoughtful article, I especially appreciate the solution ideas offered. Working in human health, I believe one of the most important factors in the impact of stress on worker health, physical and mental, is failing to acknowledge the sources and to problem solve solutions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this intelligent and thoughtful article, I especially appreciate the solution ideas offered. Working in human health, I believe one of the most important factors in the impact of stress on worker health, physical and mental, is failing to acknowledge the sources and to problem solve solutions.</p>
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